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Mountable Vs Unmountable Pelts by Nakomii Mountable Vs Unmountable Pelts by Nakomii
Alright guys I made this handy little guide to help everyone out. I suggest before sending a pelt to someone to be mounted, you really look this over to save you the dissapointment of being told your pelt cant be mounted.


ON THE LEFT IS ALL UNMOUNTABLE, THE RIGHT IS MOUNTABLE. :)


So heres an explanation of each.

LIPS

Lips are extremely important in making a mount. If you dont have lip, you might as well stop here. Lips are essential for tucking and keeping the muzzle shape.

Unmountable lips: They will be hardly there. It could be missing in parts, been shaved really close, or just everywhere messed up like the one pictured on the left.
Mountable Lips: The one on the right has TONS of extra lip to tuck. this is ideal.

EYES

Eyes are important. This is the character of your mount, the starting point of expression and the most detail-oriented part.
Now the thing with eyes is that it doesnt HAVE to have extra skin, but it HAS to have the lids IN TACT and still there.

Unmountable lids: The lids are still there, but theres no skin to tuck. That wouldnt be a problem if parts of the lids werent missing/ripped!!

Mountable lids: Usually you cant even stick your finger through the eye holes because of the extra skin. It will always be pretty obvious if theres extra eye skin in there! it will also have small eye holes because all of the lid is there.

NOSE

Nose is just as important. If somethings off with the nose, well you have a lot of trouble on your hands. Noses can be a bit tricky because some you can work around.

Unmountable nose: you can see right through the nostril and its flat, and sometimes awkwardly dried (because its so thick OR thin)..If it looks paper thin and has no 3D value, its unmountable.

Mountable nose: You cant see through it. (The view is from the inside). Theres extra areas of cartiledge (not TOO MUCH) but enough to "tuck" or form.

EARS

Oh holy heck, you BETTER have mountable ears! This is the element that the eyes are drawn to right after the eyes. If the ears look off, its all your going to stare at. And its not going to look right, even if the eyes are stunning.
Ears also define personality JUST as much as eyes, and if you dont have good ears it will really mess up a mount.

Unmountable ears: UNTURNED. thats it. Not turned. If theyre flat against the head and CANT move, if they hardly bend, OR if you cant stick your finger inside the ear and feel 2 seperate pieces, its not turned.

Mountable ears: They will be turned! they might still be stiff, but theyll be floppy on the head and moveable, and you can stick your finger inside of the ear.

PAWS

Okay, paws. If they look funny you cant even call it realistic. Everyone skins paws differently, and the most common thing that happens is split paws. Ill explain further on that one.
If you cant stuff the feet, you cant do it.

Unmountable paws: as you can see in that photo,..thats as far as you can get in that paw. The bone is STILL in there!!! Not good, not good at all. If your toes are messed up, theyre staying messed up!

Mountable paws: Most important way to tell?? You an stick your finger inside of it!! As you can see my finger is right up inside the paw. ALTHOUGH this has a split pad (Lazy skinners..) it can be fixed. Its not favorable, but split pads can be mended. If the pad Is NOT split (I dont have any examples, thats how many lazy skinners are out there XD) and you can stick your finger in it, then your going to make your commissioner super happy. LOL

GENITALS

Alright. This is a big factor. If its missing it has to be replaced, and its not going to match most likely.

unmountable: Theres that upside down V shape there. Sew that together and your mount is going to look awfully stupid. This can be fixed, but it wont look amazing. Plus, its a lot of work to find extras sometimes!

Mountable: Everything is there and theres no upside down V missing! On Males, Testicles CAN be missing. thats fine. so long as its cut JUST above it, no further.
On females, its usually always missing anyway, since its not an external organ. As I said, so long as theres no V patch missing!!!



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LEATHER

Okay, well if you have a completely mountable pellt and shitty leather, it aint happening.

You can test it in these ways:

Color. Is it white and stretchy? or Yellow and stiff?
Shaved: Is the leather super thin or too thick?
Smell: Does it smell like leather? The more potent it is, usually the fresher.
Does it have any holes that are placed to look like a shape? Or does it have any stamps or marked inks? This means its garment tanned. These usually are never mountable, but I have done ONE so far where it was....its not preferred, just to be safe.

And, can it rehydrate?? Test a patch by the butt and soak maybe a half inch square with water by patting it with a sponge. Make sure it goes through the skin and not just lightly brush it.
If you can stretch it and pull it and it doesnt break, then its rehydrateable. If it breaks or falls apart, its not.



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I hope this can help someone out there, im no pro and ive only done a few mounts, but I figured id help out with what I know. If anyone else has something to add, tell me. :D



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-Mars
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M-Lee08 Featured By Owner May 20, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
I thought you may be able to help I would like to get this fox but I am not sure if it is able to be soft mounted. Its from Moscow Hide and Fur. They have been recommended but I am a little hedgey. I don't have a mounter planed just yet, but I want to get it and find one latter. I would like to wait to find someone to mount him well because I want to give a good forever home.
This is the fox: www.hideandfur.com/inventory/6…
I appreciate the help.
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Nakomii Featured By Owner May 20, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
yep thats perfect for a soft mount! :)
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M-Lee08 Featured By Owner May 20, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Sweet thank you so much. You have made my night. You have no idea how much this means to me. I have been looking for a red fox to soft mount for over a year and not a one has spoken to me to take him/her home and love him/her forever till I saw this guy.
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Nakomii Featured By Owner May 21, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
!! Really?? No one? That's really ridiculous. I'm sorry it took so long, but I'm very happy you can take your fox home!!!! <3 I hope you enjoy him more in person! C: 
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M-Lee08 Featured By Owner May 21, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
I wanted to take my time and get a fox that I could give a forever home to. I didn't want to get one settle and feel the need to sell or trade it latter. I have to much respect to the animals to do that.
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Drakyris Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh what the hell, I've been totally screwed... I was sold a mountable pelt, and it looks exactly like the ones you've pictured on the left. :( Not happy. I tried mounting it today, but realised that my fox has literally NO lips. It has just a tiny strip which is miles away from the front of it's muzzle, it's awful. :'( I'm really sad now... Is there any way I can somehow mount the head? 
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Nakomii Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
D: I would definitely get a re fund and return the fox...sadly there is no way to mount it. =\ where did it come from?
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Drakyris Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Someone on DeviantArt. Thing is, I have already started mounting, I was leaving the head for last. :/ I'm a beginner at this, and I knew something was a little strange about the severe lack of a lower jaw/mouth, it's like a little strip of fur, but I thought there would be a way around it... sadly not. :(
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Nakomii Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
any username? 
And well, sadly youll just have to take it apart, theres no way around an unmountable pelt. =/ Its better to spend the money from a reliable source than to take a chance. 
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Drakyris Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Meh, I really wanted to mount him since he's a really pretty fox. I might consider making him a skull fox then, or just build him a head entirely out of clay. That's really disappointing. :( Thanks anyway.
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SevenZee Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Out of curiosity, what makes a garment tan bad for mounting? o:
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Nakomii Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Its not the tan itself usually, but most garment tanned pelts have bones in the feet, no lips, stiff noses...unturned ears.....
Its quite a lot. D:
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SevenZee Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Ah thanks x3 I'm hoopefully gonna order a garment tanned pelt and I was just wondering if there was absolutely no hope for it or if it could be managed xD Even if not though, I'd be happy with just a pelt nonetheless <3
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KonekoKaburagi Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
When I got my first mountable pelt, his "buddies" came as a surprise to me. Yep, it's definitely a boy!
Never knew mountable pelts had this little feature. lol
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PrepareForImpact Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I think this has been sorely needed!! Thankyou for doing this up!
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Nakomii Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Thank you, I thought so too!
Sad thing is, I had created this because I was sent a fox (the unmountable one in the photo) to mount and the commissioner was really dissapointed that it wasnt prepped for taxidermy. I figure that if they can tell the difference before they send it to me, I wont have to be the bringer of bad news..or any other taxidermist for that reason!

Thank you! <3
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Phoenix-Cry Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013
When you have no lip to tuck you can do an open mouth instead. You'd be surprised at the mounts I've done with 'unmountable'. :giggle:
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Nakomii Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Open mouth requires lip though doesnt it?

Plus, seems like no lip mounts are always obvious xDD
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SevenZee Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I actually had a coyote listed as mountable that had very little lip, but I still mounted his head decently and you could hardly notice it. Unfortunately he was scrapped due to rotting :c
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Phoenix-Cry Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013
Nope, I cut nearly all the lip off anyway, use Killer Glue and if it has absolutely no lip I just sculpt a new lip using All Game. Also for mounts with no lips I put a prey item in the mouth. My silver coyote has no top lip and no bottom jaw. You'd never know since he has a nice fat rabbit.
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Nakomii Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
i cut a lot away too, but if theres NO black at all i wont touch it. LOL Plus if its a soft mount you cant really put anything in the mouth! XD
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Phoenix-Cry Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013
Heehee, killer soft mount!
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Nakomii Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
wouldnt bring that into public LOL!
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Phoenix-Cry Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013
:giggle:
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NightsGem Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Great job! Using this, I definitely know my cross is mountable. :)
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Nakomii Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
thanks :)
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Nakomii Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
thanks :)
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Maxidermy Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Nice guide!
But as for the nose... you can always get a replica nose so that's not really the biggest issue, imo.
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Nakomii Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
thanks!!

I have a replica nose on a mount im STILL working on..biggest mistake ive made. Never again so I want to replace a nose. It looks horrible and its so hard to fix. Id rather not go through the hassle, as im sure other taxidermists would rather not. XD

And we all know what it looks like when you do a bad replacement nose job........
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Maxidermy Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It doesn't look horrible if you know what you're doing. ;)
Never used one myself but I've seen professionals using artificial noses and they look really good.

Hahaha. XD
Yeah, I DO know what you're talking about.
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Nakomii Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
It really bothers me XDD
On what, deer? Usually on larger ones its easy, but exremely small foxes (so small you have to use a grey fox form) with a big replacement nose, and the fox lip skin is not working, yeah its tough LOL

LOL dont we all. XD
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Maxidermy Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I've seen it being used on foxes and bobcats. And bears, of course.
Never seen it on deer before though.
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Nakomii Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Weird, ive only seen it on Deer XD
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Shamans-Yoik Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
This is a VERY good guide, my only suggestion would be to take a underside shot of the ears, it's not as obvious as it is with all the other angles/shots what is and isn't mountable.

Still, this is a GREAT key, Thanks for the contribution!
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Nakomii Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
What underside of the ears? You mean the inside, or inside the pelt? o:
Even so I cant get any photos of that either, all I can provide is a description to help out really XD
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